Problem Android Detection Generic Mobile/Tablet

I have this HTTP request, I expected this, but WURFL is returning that. Please provide enough data to reproduce the problem.
city21
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Problem Android Detection Generic Mobile/Tablet

Postby city21 » Thu Jul 25, 2013 6:41 am

I encounter anomalies in the detection of certain user-agents : Locally (on my computer), I get a mobile device but when I tested them on WURFL Tools (online), I get a tablet device !!!

FYI: I use the latest Java API (1.4.4.3) and wurfl.xml (2.3.4)
Could you help me please ?

Here is some used user-agents :
"Mozilla/5.0 (Linux; U; Android 4.1.1; fr-fr; MIDC410 Build/JRO03H) AppleWebKit/534.30 (KHTML, like Gecko) Version/4.0 Safari/534.30"
"Mozilla/5.0 (Linux; U; Android 4.0.3; fr-fr; MIDC497 Build/IML74K) AppleWebKit/534.30 (KHTML, like Gecko) Version/4.0 Safari/534.30"
"Mozilla/5.0 (Linux; U; Android 4.0.4; fr-fr; CT1010 Build/IMM76I.v008) AppleWebKit/534.30 (KHTML, like Gecko) Version/4.0 Safari/534.30"
"Mozilla/5.0 (Linux; Android 4.0.4; ARCHOS 80 COBALT Build/IMM76D) AppleWebKit/535.19 (KHTML, like Gecko) Chrome/18.0.1025.166 Safari/535.19"
"Mozilla/5.0 (Linux; U; Android 4.0.4; fr-fr; Dslide 971 Build/IMM76D) AppleWebKit/534.30 (KHTML, like Gecko) Version/4.0 Safari/534.30"

Thanks,

sriram
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Re: Problem Android Detection Generic Mobile/Tablet

Postby sriram » Thu Jul 25, 2013 8:33 am

Hi city21,

Thank you for your post. The UAs that you've mentioned in your post are all tablets, which is the reason why they were detected as such on the WURFL Tools website. We constantly work on improvements to the WURFL API logic and the results from the WURFL Tools are the result of that. The logic has not yet been pushed to the WURFL APIs and hence the discrepancy. I've added the UAs from your post to WURFL DB and they should be detected properly from the next snapshot onwards. Please do let us know if you notice the issue with other UAs.

Thanks again and cheers!
Sriram Sridharan

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Re: Problem Android Detection Generic Mobile/Tablet

Postby city21 » Thu Jul 25, 2013 9:52 am

Thank you for response,

I found the same thing for these UAs:
"Mozilla/5.0 (Linux; Android 4.2.2; A700 Build/JDQ39E) AppleWebKit/537.36 (KHTML, like Gecko) Chrome/28.0.1500.94 Safari/537.36"
"Mozilla/5.0 (Linux; U; Android 4.0.4; fr-fr; GT-P7501 Build/IMM76D) AppleWebKit/534.30 (KHTML, like Gecko) Version/4.0 Safari/534.30"
"Mozilla/5.0 (Linux; U; Android 4.2.2; fr-fr; GT-P5210 Build/JDQ39) AppleWebKit/534.30 (KHTML, like Gecko) Version/4.0 Safari/534.30"

N.B:
For the last one, i obtained Tablet "Samsung GT-P5210 (Galaxy Tab 3 10.1)" from WURFL Tools, but locally is a Mobile "Generic Android 4.2" (XML missing).

Could you tell me when you publish a new verion of java API and WURFL-XML repository, that fixe these problems ?

Thanks,

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Re: Problem Android Detection Generic Mobile/Tablet

Postby city21 » Thu Jul 25, 2013 10:12 am

I think that either the XML respository, you must update The matchers :
like AndroidMatcher which is poor.

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Re: Problem Android Detection Generic Mobile/Tablet

Postby sriram » Thu Jul 25, 2013 10:29 am

Hi city21,

I've added the other UAs to WURFL DB as well and you should see improved detection from the next WURFL.xml release onwards.
For the last one, i obtained Tablet "Samsung GT-P5210 (Galaxy Tab 3 10.1)" from WURFL Tools, but locally is a Mobile "Generic Android 4.2" (XML missing).

Could you tell me when you publish a new verion of java API and WURFL-XML repository, that fixe these problems ?
I don't have an ETA for you yet but please stay tuned. Regarding the GT-P5210 issue, what date of the WURFL.xml file are you on?

Thanks,
Sriram Sridharan

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Re: Problem Android Detection Generic Mobile/Tablet

Postby city21 » Thu Jul 25, 2013 10:38 am

Hi Sriram,

For wurfl.xml :
<ver>2.3.4, db.scientiamobile.com - 2013-06-02 18:44:18</ver>
<last_updated>Sun Jun 02 18:46:46 -0400 2013</last_updated>

For updates, I will stay tuned, and as soon as I have other incompatible UAs, I will share it.

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Re: Problem Android Detection Generic Mobile/Tablet

Postby sriram » Thu Jul 25, 2013 10:57 am

Hi city21,

The GT-P5210 was added in July 2013 and hence you'll need to update to a newer WURFL.xml file to detect it properly.
For updates, I will stay tuned, and as soon as I have other incompatible UAs, I will share it.
Thank you. Your patience and assistance is appreciated.

Cheers!
Sriram Sridharan

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Re: Problem Android Detection Generic Mobile/Tablet

Postby city21 » Thu Sep 12, 2013 8:35 am

Hi Sriram,

Here is a list of user-agents collected in our website. When I use WURFL standalone (java + xml) to detect devices, I get empty devices.
Could you please clone me the devices that match the user-agents ?

Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; fr; rv:1.9.0.8) Gecko/2009032609 NokiaN95
Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 6.1; fr; rv:1.9.2.17) Gecko/20110420 nokia e72
Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 6.1; fr; rv:1.9.1.7) Gecko/20091221 NokiaN95
Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; fr; rv:1.9.2.3) Gecko/20100401 NokiaN97 ( .NET CLR 3.5.30729)
Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 6.0; fr; rv:1.9.1.3) Gecko/20090824 NokiaN95 (.NET CLR 3.5.30729)
Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux armv7l; en-US; rv:1.9.2.3) Gecko/20100423 Ubuntu/10.04 (lucid) Firefox/3.6.3
Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; fr; rv:1.9.2.3) Gecko/20100401 Nokia/BouyguesTEL/E71 (.NET CLR 3.5.30729)
Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 6.0; fr; rv:1.9.0.10) Gecko/2009042316 NokiaN95
Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; fr; rv:1.9.0.15) Gecko/2009101601 NokiaN95
Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; fr; rv:1.9.2.16) Gecko/20110319 Nokia N8-00
Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 6.0; fr; rv:1.9.0.7) Gecko/2009021910 NokiaN95
Mozilla/5.0 (Nintendo WiiU) AppleWebKit/534.52 (KHTML, like Gecko) NX/2.1.0.10.9 NintendoBrowser/1.5.0.8047.EU
Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 6.0; fr; rv:1.9.0.7) Gecko/2009021910 NokiaN95 (.NET CLR 3.5.30729)
Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; fr; rv:1.8.0.5) Gecko/20060719 vodaphone/1.0/htc touch hdt8282/1.14.163.2 (28253) opera/9.50 (windows nt 5.1; u; fr)
Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 6.0; fr; rv:1.9.2.16) Gecko/20110319 NokiaN97
Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; fr; rv:1.9.0.1) Gecko/2008070208 NokiaN95
Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 6.0; fr; rv:1.9.2.13) Gecko/20101203 NokiaN95 (.NET CLR 3.5.30729)
"Vodafone/1.0/HTC_Mercury/1.23.163.5/Mozilla/4.0"
Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 6.0; fr; rv:1.9.2.13) Gecko/20101203 NokiaN95 ( .NET CLR 3.5.30729; .NET4.0C)
Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 6.0; fr; rv:1.9.0.1) Gecko/2008070208 NokiaN95
Vodafone/1.0/SonyEricssonX10i Build/R1FA014/Mozilla/5.0
Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X 10.5; fr; rv:1.9.1.5) Gecko/20091102 NokiaN95 FBSMTWB
Mozilla/4.0(compatible;MSIE 6.0;windows CE; IE Mobile7.6)Vodafone/1.0/Nokia/V10b
Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 6.0; fr; rv:1.8.1.20) Gecko/20081217 Vodafone/1.0/SFR_v3650/1.25.163.3
Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 6.0; fr; rv:1.9.0.6) Gecko/2009011913 NokiaN95
Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 6.1; fr; rv:1.9.1.4) Gecko/20091016 NokiaN95
Mozilla/5.0 (Vodafone/1.0/LG-KM900/V100 Obigo/WAP2.0 Profile/MIDP-2.1 Configuration/CLDC-1.1
Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 6.1; fr; rv:1.9.2.13) Gecko/20101203 iphone
Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 6.0; fr; rv:1.9.2.8) Gecko/20100722 NokiaN95
Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux armv7l; en-US; rv:1.9.2.1) Gecko/20100126 Firefox/3.6.1 Fennec/1.0.1
Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; fr; rv:1.9.0.5) Gecko/2008120122 NokiaN95
Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 6.0; fr; rv:1.9.2.3) Gecko/20100401 NokiaE71 (.NET CLR 3.5.30729)
Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; fr; rv:1.9.1.3) Gecko/20090824 Ant.com Toolbar 1.4 NokiaN95, Ant.com Toolbar 1.3 (.NET CLR 3.5.30729)
Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 6.0; fr; rv:1.9.2.21) Gecko/20110830 NokiaN95 ( .NET CLR 3.5.30729)
Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; fr; rv:1.9.2.12) Gecko/20101026 nokiaE71
Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; fr; rv:1.9.0.11) Gecko/2009060215 Vodafone/1.0/SFR_v3650/1.25.163.3
Mozilla/5.0 (Nintendo WiiU) AppleWebKit/534.52 (KHTML, like Gecko) NX/2.1.0.10.9 NintendoBrowser/1.5.0.8047.EU
Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 6.0; fr; rv:1.9.2) Gecko/20100115 NokiaN95 (.NET CLR 3.5.30729)
Mozilla/5.0 (SAMSUNG; SAMSUNG-GT-S5750E-BOUYGUES/S5750EAGJL4; U; Bada/1.0; fr-fr) AppleWebKit/533.1 (KHTML, like Gecko) Dolfin/2.0 Mobile WQVGA SMM-MMS/1.2.0 NexPlayer/3.0 profile/MIDP-2.1 configuration/CLDC-1.1 OPN-B
Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 6.0; fr; rv:1.9.0.19) Gecko/2010031422 AskTbUT2V5/3.8.0.12304 Nokia N97 Mini ( .NET CLR 3.5.30729; .NET4.0C)
Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 6.0; fr; rv:1.9.0.8) Gecko/2009032609 NokiaN95
Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; fr; rv:1.9.0.1) Gecko/2008070208 NOKIA95
Vodafone/1.0/LG-KS20/V10b
Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; fr; rv:1.9.0.11) Gecko/2009060215 Vodafone/1.0/SFR_v3650/1.25.163.3
Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux armv7l; rv:7.0.1; HERCULES; EC-SLIM-EX) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/7.0.1
Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 6.0; fr; rv:1.9.2.16) Gecko/20110319 NokiaN95
Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 6.0; fr; rv:1.9.1.7) Gecko/20091221 NokiaN95 GTB6 (.NET CLR 3.5.30729) Creative ZENcast v2.00.13
Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux armv7l; rv:7.0.1; HERCULES; EC-SLIM-EX) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/7.0.1
Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 6.0; fr; rv:1.9.1.7) Gecko/20091221 NokiaN96 (.NET CLR 3.5.30729)
Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 6.1; fr; rv:1.9.2.6) Gecko/20100625 AskTbVD/3.9.1.14019 NokiaN96
Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 6.1; fr; rv:1.9.2.16) Gecko/20110319 NokiaN95 Firefox/3.6.16
Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; fr; rv:1.8.1.20) Gecko/20081217 NokiaN95
Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 6.0; fr; rv:1.9.2.13) Gecko/20101203 NokiaE71
Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 6.0; fr; rv:1.9.0.8) Gecko/2009032609 NokiaN95
Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; fr; rv:1.9.2.10) Gecko/20100914 AskTbFWV5/3.9.1.14019 NokiaN95 ( .NET CLR 3.5.30729)
Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; fr; rv:1.9.2.10) Gecko/20100914 NokiaN95
Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 6.1; fr; rv:1.9.0.6) Gecko/2009011913 SAMSUNG-SGH-i900/1.0 (Windows NT 5.1; U; en) Opera 9.5
Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; fr; rv:1.9.0.11) Gecko/2009060215 NokiaN95
Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 6.1; fr; rv:1.9.1.5) Gecko/20091102 NokiaN95 (.NET CLR 3.5.30729)
Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 6.0; fr; rv:1.9.2.3) Gecko/20100401 NokiaE71 (.NET CLR 3.5.30729)
Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 6.1; fr; rv:1.9.2.18) Gecko/20110614 Vodafone/1.0/SFR_v3650/1.25.163.3
Mozilla/5.0 (SAMSUNG; SAMSUNG-GT-S8600-ORANGE/S8600BVKJ8; U; Bada/2.0; fr-fr) AppleWebKit/534.20 (KHTML, like Gecko) Dolfin/3.0 Mobile WVGA SMM-MMS/1.2.0 NexPlayer/3.0 profile/MIDP-2.1 configuration/CLDC-1.1 OPN-B
Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 6.1; fr; rv:1.9.0.19) Gecko/2010031422 Vodafone/1.0/SFR_v3650/1.25.163.3
Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 6.1; fr; rv:1.9.0.19) Gecko/2010031422 Vodafone/1.0/SFR_v3650/1.29.159.4
Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 6.1; fr; rv:1.9.0.6) Gecko/2009011913 Vodafone/1.0/SFR_v3650/1.29.157.4
Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 6.1; fr; rv:1.9.0.6) Gecko/2009011913 Vodafone/1.0/SFR_v3650/1.29.157.4
Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 6.1; fr; rv:1.9.1.19) Gecko/20110420 mozilla/5.0 (linux; u; android 2.1-update1; fr-fr; gt-i9000 build/eclair) applewebkit/530.17 (khtml, like gecko) version/4.0 mobile safari/530.17
Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 6.1; fr; rv:1.9.2.23) Gecko/20110920 iphone
Mozilla/5.0 (SAMSUNG; SAMSUNG-GT-S5750E-VODAFONE/S5750MAEKE1; U; Bada/1.0; fr-fr) AppleWebKit/533.1 (KHTML, like Gecko) Dolfin/2.0 Mobile WQVGA SMM-MMS/1.2.0 NexPlayer/3.0 profile/MIDP-2.1 configuration/CLDC-1.1 OPN-B
Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 6.1; fr; rv:1.9.2.24) Gecko/20111103 NokiaN95
Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 6.1; fr; rv:1.9.2.25) Gecko/20111212 SAMSUNG/GT-i8000
Mozilla/5.0 (Nintendo WiiU) AppleWebKit/534.52 (KHTML, like Gecko) NX/2.1.0.10.9 NintendoBrowser/1.5.0.8047.EU
Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; fr; rv:1.9.1.5) Gecko/20091102 Nokia5800d-1 (.NET CLR 3.5.30729)
Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux armv7l; rv:7.0.1; HERCULES; EC-SLIM-EX) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/7.0.1
Mozilla/5.0 (SAMSUNG; SAMSUNG-GT-S7230E-BOUYGUES/S723EAGJK1; U; Bada/1.0; fr-fr) AppleWebKit/533.1 (KHTML, like Gecko) Dolfin/2.0 Mobile WQVGA SMM-MMS/1.2.0 NexPlayer/3.0 profile/MIDP-2.1 configuration/CLDC-1.1 OPN-B
Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux armv7l; en-US; rv:1.9.2.16) Gecko/20110323 Firefox/3.6.16 MB860/Version.4.2.13.MB860.Retail.en.FR
Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux armv7l; rv:7.0.1; HERCULES; EC-SLIM-EX) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/7.0.1
Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux armv7l; rv:7.0.1; HERCULES; EC-SLIM-EX) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/7.0.1
Mozilla/5.0 (Nintendo WiiU) AppleWebKit/534.52 (KHTML, like Gecko) NX/2.1.0.10.9 NintendoBrowser/1.5.0.8047.EU
Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux armv7l; rv:6.0.2) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/6.0.2 MB860/Version.45.31.0.MB860.Retail.en.FR
Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux armv7l; en-US; rv:1.9.2.16) Gecko/20110323 Firefox/3.6.16 MB860/Version.4.2.13.MB860.Retail.en.FR
Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux armv7l; rv:7.0.1; HERCULES; EC-SLIM-EX) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/7.0.1
Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 6.0; fr; rv:1.9.2.28) Gecko/20120306 Nokia N95 ( .NET CLR 3.5.30729; .NET4.0C)
Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux armv7l; rv:7.0.1; HERCULES; EC-SLIM-EX) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/7.0.1
Mozilla/5.0 (SAMSUNG; SAMSUNG-GT-S5380-BOUYGUES/S5380AGKK5; U; Bada/2.0; fr-fr) AppleWebKit/534.20 (KHTML, like Gecko) Dolfin/3.0 Mobile HVGA SMM-MMS/1.2.0 OPN-B
Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux armv7l; rv:7.0.1; HERCULES; EC-SLIM-EX) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/7.0.1
Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux armv7l; rv:7.0.1; HERCULES; EC-SLIM-EX) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/7.0.1
Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux armv7l; en-US; rv:1.9.2.3) Gecko/20100423 Ubuntu/10.04 (lucid) Firefox/3.6.3
Mozilla/5.0 (9542000434; CPU OS 5_0_1 like Mac OS X) AppleWebKit/534.46 (KHTML, like Gecko) Version/5.1 Mobile/9A405 Safari/7534.48.3

sriram
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Re: Problem Android Detection Generic Mobile/Tablet

Postby sriram » Thu Sep 12, 2013 9:19 am

Hi City21,

A lot of these UAs seem to be desktop devices that are trying to emulate mobile devices but are failing. Here are some examples:
Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; fr; rv:1.9.0.8) Gecko/2009032609 NokiaN95
Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 6.1; fr; rv:1.9.2.17) Gecko/20110420 nokia e72
Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 6.1; fr; rv:1.9.1.7) Gecko/20091221 NokiaN95
Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; fr; rv:1.9.2.3) Gecko/20100401 NokiaN97 ( .NET CLR 3.5.30729)
Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 6.0; fr; rv:1.9.1.3) Gecko/20090824 NokiaN95 (.NET CLR 3.5.30729)
Some of the other UAs appear to be a netbook running a linux OS.
Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux armv7l; rv:7.0.1; HERCULES; EC-SLIM-EX) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/7.0.1
Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux armv7l; rv:7.0.1; HERCULES; EC-SLIM-EX) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/7.0.1
Also, you mentioned that:
When I use WURFL standalone (java + xml) to detect devices, I get empty devices
Could you please elaborate on that? Are these UAs not being detected at all? What version of the Java API and what date of the WURFL.xml file are you on? Please make sure to run these UAs in "High-Accuracy" mode since these UAs appear to be desktop UAs.

Thanks and cheers!
Sriram Sridharan


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